: Can Internet Explorer use the AES crytographic algorithm for HTTPS? I wanted to disable RC4 and "force" PFS on my website. Without modification, every browser used RC4. As I don't have access

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I wanted to disable RC4 and "force" PFS on my website. Without modification, every browser used RC4. As I don't have access to the root directory I did it by modifying the .htaccess file. Note: The server currently only supports TLS 1.0.

So I changed the CipherSuite to:

SSLCipherSuite HIGH:MEDIUM

Which worked fine on every browser, but the IE, which "can't find the address". So I tried it with:

SSLCipherSuite ECDH+AES256:DH+AES256:DH+AES:!MD5

Same result here. Just to test if it would work with RC4 i tried it with:

SSLCipherSuite ECDH+AES256:DH+AES256:DH+AES:RC4-SHA:!MD5

After this modification, all browsers use AES as cipher. IE now displays the page, but uses RC4 as cipher, even though it should support AES.

So, does IE support anything but RC4? I tried to test this with:

SSLCipherSuite ALL:-RC4

Again it can't connect. But: AES works fine on Google/Youtube (TLS 1.2).

I tested it on multiple versions of IE and Windows and got the same result every time I tried to connect.

Am I missing something obvious here? Is there anyone who knows why IE won't display my website? Or is my code just completely wrong?

Here a list of my supported ciphersuites for reference:

[~]openssl ciphers -v
ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=Camellia(256) Mac=SHA1
DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=Camellia(256) Mac=SHA1
AECDH-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=None Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
ADH-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=Camellia(256) Mac=SHA1
ECDH-RSA-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/RSA Au=ECDH Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
ECDH-ECDSA-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/ECDSA Au=ECDH Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
CAMELLIA256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=Camellia(256) Mac=SHA1
PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
ECDHE-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1
ECDHE-ECDSA-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1
EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1
EDH-DSS-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1
AECDH-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=None Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1
ADH-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1
ECDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/RSA Au=ECDH Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1
ECDH-ECDSA-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/ECDSA Au=ECDH Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1
DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1
DES-CBC3-MD5 SSLv2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=3DES(168) Mac=MD5
PSK-3DES-EDE-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1
ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=SEED(128) Mac=SHA1
DHE-DSS-SEED-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=SEED(128) Mac=SHA1
DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=Camellia(128) Mac=SHA1
DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=Camellia(128) Mac=SHA1
AECDH-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=None Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
ADH-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
ADH-SEED-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=SEED(128) Mac=SHA1
ADH-CAMELLIA128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=Camellia(128) Mac=SHA1
ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/RSA Au=ECDH Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
ECDH-ECDSA-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/ECDSA Au=ECDH Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
SEED-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=SEED(128) Mac=SHA1
CAMELLIA128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=Camellia(128) Mac=SHA1
IDEA-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=IDEA(128) Mac=SHA1
IDEA-CBC-MD5 SSLv2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=IDEA(128) Mac=MD5
RC2-CBC-MD5 SSLv2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=RC2(128) Mac=MD5
PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=RC4(128) Mac=SHA1
ECDHE-ECDSA-RC4-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=RC4(128) Mac=SHA1
AECDH-RC4-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=None Enc=RC4(128) Mac=SHA1
ADH-RC4-MD5 SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=RC4(128) Mac=MD5
ECDH-RSA-RC4-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/RSA Au=ECDH Enc=RC4(128) Mac=SHA1
ECDH-ECDSA-RC4-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/ECDSA Au=ECDH Enc=RC4(128) Mac=SHA1
RC4-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=RC4(128) Mac=SHA1
RC4-MD5 SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=RC4(128) Mac=MD5
RC4-MD5 SSLv2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=RC4(128) Mac=MD5
PSK-RC4-SHA SSLv3 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=RC4(128) Mac=SHA1
EDH-RSA-DES-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=DES(56) Mac=SHA1
EDH-DSS-DES-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=DES(56) Mac=SHA1
ADH-DES-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=DES(56) Mac=SHA1
DES-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=DES(56) Mac=SHA1
DES-CBC-MD5 SSLv2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=DES(56) Mac=MD5
EXP-EDH-RSA-DES-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH(512) Au=RSA Enc=DES(40) Mac=SHA1 export
EXP-EDH-DSS-DES-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH(512) Au=DSS Enc=DES(40) Mac=SHA1 export
EXP-ADH-DES-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH(512) Au=None Enc=DES(40) Mac=SHA1 export
EXP-DES-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=DES(40) Mac=SHA1 export
EXP-RC2-CBC-MD5 SSLv3 Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=RC2(40) Mac=MD5 export
EXP-RC2-CBC-MD5 SSLv2 Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=RC2(40) Mac=MD5 export
EXP-ADH-RC4-MD5 SSLv3 Kx=DH(512) Au=None Enc=RC4(40) Mac=MD5 export
EXP-RC4-MD5 SSLv3 Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=RC4(40) Mac=MD5 export
EXP-RC4-MD5 SSLv2 Kx=RSA(512) Au=RSA Enc=RC4(40) Mac=MD5 export

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@Si4351233

AES is supported in Schannel (the crypto library used by IE) in Windows Vista/2008 and later. It is not supported in XP/2003 (which, by the time you read this, nobody anywhere should be using, although some lunatics still are).

Microsoft publishes a complete list of cipher suites available in Schannel. And you may also want recommended cipher suite configurations for popular web servers.

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@Harper822

Qualys® SSL Labs offer an SSL client testsuite which also shows all the ciphersuites a connecting user agent supports.

I don’t have “standard” MS Internet Explorer systems handy, but I know it depends on three things:

The version and configuration of MSIE
The version and configuration of the OS
The version and configuration of SChannel (Windows’ built-in OpenSSL equivalent)

So, please just use your particular MSIE, head to that page, and look at whether an AES ciphersuite is among the ones offered.

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