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: How do I acquire these exact fonts for use on Windows...? I am working on a shipping label that is incidental to a database system I am responsible for supporting. The client has very specific

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I am working on a shipping label that is incidental to a database system I am responsible for supporting. The client has very specific requirements, calling for Helvetica Medium Condensed and Helvetica Bold Condensed (you can see the document here, Section 5).

When I do a web search for "Helvetica Condensed Medium", I see one identical result in the Adobe store and a bunch of references to "Neue 67" variant of Helvetica, which, as I understand, is not identical.

But when I view that Adobe link, there is no apparent way to actually purchase that font. (No "add to cart" button, etc.) And, when I attempt to search the Adobe site using their built-in search, I don't see any results that directly correspond to "Medium Condensed".

Is there another "common" name for these fonts?

When I attempt to browse fonts in the Adobe store alphabetically, I also do not see any fonts that clearly correspond to Helv. Cond. Medium or Helv. Cond. Bold. (Not clearly to me, at least.) Furthermore, the ones that seem closest are all bundled into packs of multiple fonts. Assuming I could find the specific fonts I want, is there no way to buy individual fonts?

I thought I might have better results on the Linotype site but the issues (other than the bundling) are basically the same -- they don't appear to sell the exact specific font, and I'm not exactly sure what "format" I'll be getting.

... Which is a concern because ... to top it all off, I am not even certain our label printer (Zebra Z4M) is compatible with any non-TrueType fonts, other than those provided by the manufacturer, and they do not appear to offer the fonts we require. So, I think to be safest I need TTF versions of these fonts. Do they even exist?

Am I even going about this the right way? I wound up at the Adobe site first because of their apparent dominance of search results, but if there is a better alternative (i.e. more canonical, less expensive, simpler, or all of the above), I would like to hear about it.

After all this, I have my doubts that the original specification is even precisely valid. But now is the time to "do the best we can", not the time to argue that point.

Yeah, did I mention they want this operational for tomorrow? ;D

Any advice toward meeting that goal would be sincerely appreciated. I know there are several questions here, but I'm expecting that the right answers to the important ones will obviate some of the lesser ones.

Thank you!

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@RJPawlick971

what you're looking for is this version.

Helvetica Neue LT Std www.myfonts.com/fonts/adobe/helvetica-neue/
specifically they probably used,
Helvetica Neue LT Std 67 Medium Condensed www.myfonts.com/fonts/adobe/helvetica-neue/cond-medium/
its the exact one used by American Apparel, American Airlines, Target etc. there are a few different versions floating around but this is the most commonly used.

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@Caterina889

Type 1 fonts have been deprecated by Adobe....

Check this link to purchase ---> store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?store=OLS-US&event=displayFontPackage&code=14

Realize you'll pay 0 for something Adobe feels should die, so don't expect great support.

I am assuming Helvetica Condensed Medium, type 1, from Adobe would be the same as "Helvetica Med. Cond." the document calls for.

However.......

The PDF is using Helvetica Neue Medium Condensed as seen in the PDF properties:



(There is no Helvetica Medium Condensed used in the PDF anywhere.)

....and it's live text on that label ( in other words, the label is not an image, it's text). So the label is using Helvetica Neue Medium Condensed regardless of what the callouts state. Chances are the creator probably either A) never thought anyone would care so much or B) let the document designers get away with not conforming to the specification or C) Generalized the callout without focusing specifically on the version of Helvetica in favor of noting the face.

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