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: What can a designer do if a client claims that the work delivered is unacceptable and refuses to pay? I recently had an experience with a client that was a bit messy, and now they don't

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I recently had an experience with a client that was a bit messy, and now they don't want to pay for the work I did.

They needed some presentation decks, one of which needed to be editable (text to go on top of graphics) in PowerPoint. I told them that I do not work in PowerPoint as a graphic designer, what I can do is create images that can serve as a background template onto which text boxes on PowerPoint can be created.

From there, my time was highly mismanaged. The person kept directing me to figure out different ways of working around what I proposed and seemed resistant to it. All the research I did, and later confirmed with graphic designers- told me that this was the way to go from Adobe to PowerPoint. I initially did not want to invoice for this time, but they directed me to look into things after I told them I didn't work in PowerPoint.

They fired after I spent days on end working and researching to appease the woman and see if I could find other ways around around her reticence about working with the approach I outlined about.

They then sent me an email that my work was incomplete and unusable and would not pay me (p.s. they fired me before they even reviewed all of it, and what was reviewed was never stated to be incomplete or un-useable). I explained to them that my time was 1) mismanaged and redirected to research and this delayed design time and 2) that I did everything I was directed to and they fired me before any revisions or edits could be made. If they needed something to be created in PowerPoint from the start, they should have told me.

So I was hoping to get advice- it is my understanding that designers don't work in PowerPoint and that I worked around this in the way that it seems everyone I talked to would. Can they do this? We agreed to freelancing per hour, not per project, I did not have a contract unfortunately.

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@Speyer780

It is a tough situation, and I have had similar situations. I cover this by a cancellation fee in a contract. If they are not satisfied, then they must pay the cancellation fee (15% of the total estimated cost)

I can't offer much suggestions for your current situation, but I would adopt this practice in the future.

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@Speyer780

I'm very sympathetic to your situation, but I think you're pretty much stuck on this one. After you told them "I don't work in PowerPoint" but then continued to work for them, you put yourself in this position.

Corporate types who are accustomed to working with MS Office sometimes can't grasp what the Adobe suite does or how it's different. They want what they want and they want you to do it without telling them it can't be done. I used to get that a lot going between InDesign and Word. "Well, you created this beautiful letterhead/flyer/brochure/tradeshow booth, and thanks, but now I need to bring it in-house so I can make changes myself and not pay you for updates. I need you to redo it in Word and it has to look exactly the same." At which point my department would first have a hearty laugh, and then spend time weeping, and then some poor account rep had to go back to the client and manage expectations.

So yeah, you kind of put yourself over the barrel here. If you didn't clarify up front what the end product was going to be and what programs you do and don't work in, you didn't manage the client's expectation of what you could (or were willing to) deliver. The time to nip this in the bud was when the client said she wanted the final product as a styled, designed PowerPoint deck. If you aren't willing or able to produce that, you should have said so right there and not spent the hours in research. (You might have been able to salvage the relationship by suggesting someone who could work in PPT if you know someone.)

Yisela has some good suggestions about trying to come to a compromise if you want to pursue that, but for me, unless this was a steady client whose work I needed, I'd let them walk. They insisted that you do something out of your skill set, they were willing to work without a contract (which isn't professional), and then they took advantage of not having a contract. This is not a partner.

This kind of thing happens from time to time. It's part of learning the business. Chalk it up to growing pains and move on, as Scott notes above.

ETA the obvious for next time... have a contract.

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@Voss6371140

I have worked with PowerPoint files as well, but I have also prepared just backgrounds when requested, so it really depends on what they asked and what you agreed on. Perhaps something in between would be ideal, YOU create the backgrounds, but YOU also add them to a PP file along the styles for titles, lists and so on.

Regarding the contract, a question first: Did you exchange emails? If you have proof, verbal contracts can be as valid as written ones.

I'm not a lawyer, you should consult one to be sure, but if you can demonstrate you delivered what they asked, you could at least let them know you are willing to take measures.

Here are a couple of articles on verbal contracts that might be of help:


Can you collect on a verbal agreement?
Dealing with and enforcing verbal contracts



Legally, verbal contracts are normally just as valid as written ones.
As with any contract, three things are required to create a contract,
verbal or otherwise:


An offer
An acceptance of that offer
Consideration (Consideration is a
bargained-for exchange –”I’ll do this if you pay me that.”)



If you have secondary documents such as emails and text messages or quotes, these documents could help you overcome the burden of proof.

Since you already did the backgrounds, I suggest you tell them you can add them to a PP file and send it to them. I'm sure they don't want to start from scratch, perhaps you can get to an agreement.

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