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: Importing transparent background PNG in CMYK So I have Illustrator document in CMYK mode intended for print. I need to import PNG image (because I need to place object extracted from the background).

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So I have Illustrator document in CMYK mode intended for print. I need to import PNG image (because I need to place object extracted from the background). And here I step on the unknown area because I actually don't know will Illustrator automatically convert PNG image colors (which is RGB only format) to CMYK.

In Illustrator's Color settings, working CMYK profile is set to "U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2". In Color Management policies my settings are:
-RGB: Preserve Embedded Profiles
-CMYK: Preserve Numbers (Ignore Linked profiles)

When saving new Illustrator document, Embed ICC profiles is checked.
When send to print, I export PDF with "High Quality Print" settings which, as far as I know, is set to embed color profiles.

Because I usually have no direct connection to the printer, my ultimate goal is to find and use default workflow, which will work in most situations. I spent numerous hours exploring colors topic, but still I am not so sure about each specific situation.

Thanks

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@Jessie844

I'm starting backwards on this answer. From the final question.

Exporting to pdf

When you export a pdf format for print, you should use a specific subformat for example the X family X-1a.

This format excude unnesesary features and process the file so it only have the data you need for print. This are old formats but work well. This dosen't alow transparencies and convert all color mode to cmyk by default.

Grayscale images will be converted using the K channel and spot colors, duotone and rgb colors will be converted to CMYK. I don't rely 100% on this automatic conversion becouse I want to control the flatening of transparency and overprint myself, but they do their job. (See aditional foot note on the bottom)

This process also any rgb external an linked file when you compile a pdf. So if you had an external rgb file will be inside the pdf in CMYK aswell.

If you need spot colors however you need to be careful about RGB files, becouse as you don't want to convert the spot colors to CMYK, the RGB files won't be processed either.

Rgb files

When you import a bitmap file (import, not link it) The image is now part of the document. The original file format is "lost". It is not important anymore. So it dosen't matter if you had a bmp, jpg, png, flat psd or whatever. Just be careful about the resolution.

On old versions of ilustrator any RGB file was converted when imported into the main color mode configured when creating the Ilustrator file. CMYK in this case.

I am not sure about the new versions. But It is not a problem to have an RGB file inside if your output is a controled pdf file. Sometimes is better to have an original RGB file.



One final note. You can always open a pdf again in ilustrator and see what is inside, how the raster images were processed etc. If I have any doubt I just open my exported file and poke inside.



Aditional note:

There are some aspects that need to be considered when doing this RGB->CMYK conversions, and you need to be sure your export handle this the way you need it to be. Is the conversion using the right color profile? The black produced is the one you need? Do the gradients look right, and have a smooth color transition? Do you need "pure" colors? Do you need another kind of color conversion, like perceptual or colorimetric? etc.

There are a lot of things to consider when making a color mode conversion.

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@Turnbaugh909

The PNG format is for screen. It is an entirely incorrect format to use in any print production files. Not only does PNG not support CMYK, many Raster Image Processors (RIPs) do not understand the format and will choke on it.

The correct formats to use would be the native Photoshop format (.psd) or .TIFF. Both these formats support CMYK color, allow transparency, and will not choke a RIP. (You could also use .pdf or .eps but .psd and .tif are the best.)

Change the format and you won't have to worry about RGB images in your print-destined files.

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