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: What does my client mean by a '100.000 DPI, lossless vector 3D' logo? My client sent me this: I'd like a logo for myself, must be 100.000 DPI, lossless vector 3D printed in gold. I

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My client sent me this:


I'd like a logo for myself, must be 100.000 DPI, lossless vector 3D printed in gold.


I totally don't understand his request? Please explain things to me. First client ever.

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@Berumen635

This request is not too unusual.
If someone wants 100 dpi then give it to them.
Lossless vector is redundant, but lossless vector file types are EPS, .AI plus a couple others which he probably cant use.
3D, unless this is a model or a physical he probably means he wants it to appear 3D, so shadows and highlights etc. This they need to be asked about.
Printed in gold... gold colored ink? actual gold? This also needs clarification.

What I'm suggesting is that when customers ask for dumb but not too weird or difficult things then just give it to them. When a question definitely needs more clarification than ask for it. If they want to be very specific in their request and they're usiing real industry terms then fulfill the request as described and don't try to teach them unless they are making a bad mistake.

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@Si6392903

To tell you the truth


if this is a real question and not a joke
and if your client is really asking that, again, no joking


This is simply an ignorant request.




must be 100.000 DPI



A logo should be designed resolution independent.
DPI is a unit to measure the printer capability. 3200 dpi is a really, really, really small dot. 100,000 dpi does not exist. (using a decimal dot, if that is what that has no sense either)



lossless vector


What is losless vector? that does not exist either.


printed in gold.


This is a case specific application, you need to clarify if it is real gold (gold plate), hot-stamping (simulating shiny gold) or golden ink (golden dust applied to transparent base)


3D printed in gold


The 3D effect is on the final product? like an engraving? or is it an intrinsic part of it, which would make the one ink hot-stamping application almost impossible to print?


First client ever


Ouch. That is bad luck... or really good one... can not tell.



Getting more serious about this.

You have not done a proper briefing.

Where the logo should be used. On a building, on a letterhead, on the glass on the door of the office

What is the 3D effect needed for? Is it an intrinsic part of the logo or is an adaptation of it.

Is this 3D effect result of the print or manufacturing process, like engraving, construction on metal plates, a carving on a stone?

Is the effect only visual, like for example to be used in a video? www.google.com/search?q=3d+logo&rlz=1C1GKLA_enMX664MX664&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwimza2XjfLVAhUD1CYKHa5XAOIQ_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=1012
Will really be printed in gold? Hot stamping and golden plates can not use gradients, only flat solid gold. Ink with dust metallic particles can use gradients but the result is not awsome.

And a big etcétera.

And yes, the 100.000 lossless thing is resolved simply using Illustrator.

The 3D part could be illustrator. But a real 3D logo is rasterized when rendered, so the PPI is back in the game.

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@Vandalay110

This sounds like a prime case of a client who has heard some nice and spiffy design terms but has no single clue what they are talking about.

'DPI', or dots per inch, is a measure for the amount of ink dots that (two-dimensional) printed work has. DPI is often confused with PPI, pixels per inch, which is the amount of pixels a pixel image has per inch of printed width. Pixel images for standard offset print are usually at least 300 PPI. The catch is that vector is infinitely scalable, and thus has no problems being printed at any number of DPI.

Moreover, vector images are always lossless. You can compress pixel data, but except for some variation in vector format (.ai, .eps or .svg, for example), you can only save vectors lossless.

3D printing in gold is possible as far as I know, but insanely expensive. Not something you would have a beginning designer do.

It's either the client just heard those fancy terms and used them to impress you and themselves, or you are the butt of a joke.

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