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: Do all US providers refuse issuing a separate IPv4 address for a separate website? My provider told me that they cannot give us a separate IP address for a separate website. I understand that

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My provider told me that they cannot give us a separate IP address for a separate website. I understand that they could give us one where an existing address absolutely cannot be reused, like if we had a second virtual server, or required SSL.

Having browsed around, it seems that this isn't really up to them, and is imposed "from above", leading me to wonder if this applies to all hosts in the US.

If this is not so, please could you recommend a good webhost with servers in the US which are happy to issue several IP addresses without requiring extra virtual servers?

P.S. I could get a separate virtual server for this, but that seems daft. It doesn't save any IP addresses whatsoever, and only wastes extra electricity in the process...

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@Yeniel560

Contray to what @Bruce Harris & @Cyclops suggest, there are policies in place limiting companies in how they use and allocate to its users IPv4 addresses.

As of February, IANA has no more /8 IP pool to allocate to regional RIR, and as of April for the Asia Pacific region APNIC has run out of freely allocated IPs, with RIPE NCC (Europe, Middle East & part of Central Asia) being expected to run out next.

In the case of American (US, Canada & Caribbean), ARIN tightened how much and how often an ISP can request new IPs when IANA ran out, and also enforced more stringent reviews to ensure efficient utilization. The effect of this are passed down to hosting companies and in turn end users.

Any companies who in this day and age freely assign dedicated IP without good reason will simply find it impossible to request more from their ISP/RIR when they run out even if their respective ISP/RIR still has some left. Do you really want to be with a company who can't get you additional IP even if you really need it (for SSL say) because they've given all their allocation away freely and as a result are denied any new ones?

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@Miguel251

Hostgator's policy on IPs is:


Due to the global shortage of IPv4 addresses, although there is no
limit on the number you may have, we are now required to request
justification for dedicated IP address requests.

With the exception of the Business hosting package, the only
acceptable justification for a dedicated IP address on any account
type that we can accept at this time is for use with an SSL
certificate.


(And their business package only allows for one unjustified IP anyway).

Despite their use of the word required, I really doubt they were forced (by, say, ARIN) to ration IP addresses to any specific user, it's just a business decision. Most hosting companies are allocated fixed-size blocks of IPv4s, and when those run out, they can't get any more (until IPv6, anyway).

Like it or not, IPv4s are now a scarce resource, and companies are charging accordingly. It may cost more than you want to pay, but that's business, sorry...

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@Sims2060225

Shared hosting companies usually provide you a shared IP (though some provide several dedicated IPs; e.g. ixwebhosting). But it general, this depends on the number of free dedicated IP addresses included in your package. Of course, you can always buy extra IPs. No one can limit you to have more and more IPs, and one dedicated for every website.

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@Kevin317

Just as example, because it's the system I'm in at the moment, when adding a new domain to a Pair hosting account you're given the following options


Dedicated IP Domain Hosting -- The domain name will have its own unique IP Address
Shared IP Domain Hosting -- The domain name will share an IP address with another domain on your account
Parked Domain Hosting -- The domain name will be "parked" on another domain name on your account


...where the first seems to be what you're asking about.

If so, I've seen something similar at several hosts over the years, so no the question doesn't apply to all US hosts, and I'd even say allowing it is fairly common.

As a secondary, when adding a website at WebFaction, there's a drop-down "IP" field for selecting which assigned to your account(dedicated IPs are an add-on) it should use.

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