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: How can I have prints with white ink? Say, I have a small business card that has solid, dark background and white text. Registration, ink amount and look & feel -wise I'd prefer the paper

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Say, I have a small business card that has solid, dark background and white text. Registration, ink amount and look & feel -wise I'd prefer the paper itself be dark and the text printed in one color: white.

However, printing white is impossible with CMYK alone, so I actually need an answer to both of the following questions:


What should I look for when choosing a print house when printing white? Should I look for houses that can do five color printing? What else printing options would hint that they're capable of doing prints with white ink?
How should I go about preparing my file for the printer? What technical requirements should it meet? I mean generally—but if there are shortcuts for this when using Adobe's Creative Suite, I'm all ears.

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@Phylliss782

The most common way to do this is to use white paper to get the "white" ink effect, and have everything else printed in color. White is absence of ink.

That's how most commercial printer do it. It works well on digital (short runs) printing and it's the most economical way to do this. You won't have issues with registration if you use a quality printer, Pantones to replace rich colors and/or use an intelligent "rich black". You will rarely have issues with registration on digital printing.

Otherwise, on offset printing there's also some silver metallic inks that can give an effect of white ink but that's never pure white. Metallic inks a bit more opaque than standard inks and it can give a nice effect when used on a colored paper.

It's not true you need more than 1000+ prints on offset; you can get 100 cards if you want but the cost-per-card will simply be higher because you need to pay for the plates for the run. Logically, if you print more cards, the cost of the plates will be shared on the quantity...!

And if you really want to use white ink then refer to the other answers or the link below and make sure you have a budget ($) for this.


You can use other processes than standard offset to print in white but
keep in mind that you also might lose some precision and won't be able
to print certain thin/small designs either because some "inks" or "UVs" are thicker than offset inks.

www.printindustry.com/Newsletters/Newsletter-134.aspx

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@Si6392903

White ink... We need a brief explanation of some ink categories and print processes.

Process inks are semi transparent inks, they use the white (or whatever paper color you have) and start removing light reflected from it to produce different colors. AKA the CMYK subtractive model.

Spot color inks are a little more opaque, depending on what system are you using for printing.

In offset printing, as the ink thickness is very light, all inks will be transparent in some degree, so it is hard to find a white ink. Actually you do not make a light version of a color with white, but with transparent ink base.

But in silk printing (also known as screen printing) it is very common to have a white ink, for example printing on black T-shirts.

In this business card thing (I know the tread is old, but it is still useful) because of the short run (in offset you need to print like 1,000-40,000) the way to go is silk printing with spot color.

If you want to do digital business cards, simply put a white letter on a dark background.

Another usage of white inks are for example in flexography when you are printing on a transparent plastic bag. If you have a color selection here you need for sure a 5 ink print process. W+CMYK. (Well they are actually KYMC+W because it is printed in reverse order) :0)

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@Dunderdale640

To answer your first question, look for a printer that says they can print white ink digitally so you get the best bang for your buck. Smartpress.com offers white ink printing in their wedding section, but because it's a printing service, you can get a custom quote or make a wedding offering suit your needs. Here's a link to the wedding section: smartpress.com/shop/wedding-printing-services
And to answer your second question, Smartpress.com offers file setup instructions for digital white ink printing here for both InDesign and Illustrator: smartpress.com/pages/white-ink-printing
Good luck!

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@Goswami567

Or, look for a printer that has an HP Indigo Press that is capable of printing white Ink. The results are amazing!

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@Deb5748823

why not just print the negative space in black on a pure white card?

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@Tiffany317

To answer the first question: you want a printer who says they can do white. It's not a matter of 5-color printing, it's more whether that printer does that kind of thing.

As you can tell from a look at the Pantone swatch book, there is no white ink in conventional printing. The translucency of the few whites that are available makes them unsuitable for most projects and you'll not find many printers willing to go to the hassle without charging you handsomely for their trouble. (Contamination from traces of other inks becomes a major issue with white, because any defect is so visible. That means the press guys have to do surgical cleaning of blanket, rollers, etc. before loading white.) On dark stock you'll almost always need more than one pass to build up enough ink density.

For pure offset, you can use one of the neutral Pantone metallics to get at least a pale gray look. On colored stock, especially uncoated matte stock with some tooth, there is no metallic sheen. The metallics aren't terrifically opaque, so a white underprinting or multiple passes are often needed. The standard advice applies: talk to the printer and see what they advise with their equipment and the card stock you're planning on.

For real opaque white, your best bets are thermography or white foil stamping. In either case put the text or graphic on a layer that's specified as "White" in the same way you would specify a spot varnish. Foil stamping houses generally prefer a separate file with just the foil portion, but whoever is doing the printing can advise you. Stamping involves a custom die, just like embossing, so be prepared for that to cost quite a bit extra for your first run of cards.

For your specific job, one "color" on dark stock, almost all printers want your text and graphics in black. You specify "white" in the order, and you can name the layer "white" just to remind them, but the objects should be black in the file. Same goes for foil and embossing.

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@Michele215

If the paper itself is dark and letters need to be white, then what you need is a printer that can print with a white spot color. That means you'll be printing one-color with white ink on the dark paper. Beyond that, you'll need to speak with them about how to prepare the layout, particularly can you just use black letters on a white background or vice versa. (Though I will venture to guess it will be the former.)

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