: InDesign: "page bleed" with pictures spanning on two pages lately I had a problem that I neved faced before now, I'll try to explain quickly: usually I setup documents in InDesign CS6 with

@Samaraweera207

This script can separate your pages. Then you must check and repair bleeds on inner page sides.

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@Kaufman565

Go to document setting and take off inside bleed. So [Bleed], [Inside=0mm] It works!!!

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@Harper654

Great answer from Janus! And great visuals. :)

One other question that needs to be asked: Is the finished product going to be saddle-stitched or perfect-bound? (Forgive me if I'm stating info you already know, maybe someone else will benefit from it) Saddle-stitched is where the printer/bindery takes the spreads (2 pages on front of each sheet of paper, 2 on back), and staples them all together to form your "book". Perfect binding is where there is only 1 page on either side (similar concept to just printing a 2-sided sheet on an inkjet printer), then stacking the sheets together and gluing them together on the left edge (or sometimes using a spiral binding, or something similar).

The reason this is important is that with saddle stitching, what Janus told you is correct, but not usually necessary, because any elements that would technically bleed on the inside edges of each page won't need to be set up that way, as that artwork would be in the gutter of the two pages, not trimmed off the outside edges. And you wouldn't want art from the lefthand page to bleed into the right, in many instances (Say the design had a border at the top of all lefthand pages, but not on the righthand pages). In this instance, using facing pages in InDesign is your best bet.

Conversely, for Perfect binding, you WOULD want to make sure your art is bleeding on all 4 sides (again, what Janus said still holds true, regardless) because there is no gutter between pages, and using non-facing pages in InDesign is the easier way to go.

Hope I made this clear enough, sounded better in my head. ;) Good luck!

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@Gonzalez368

I’m not sure I fully understand your problem.

If you create a document with Facing Pages in InDesign and specify a bleed of, say, 3mm, then that bleed will be there on all four sides of each individual page if you export as pages, rather than spreads. To illustrate:

Set up your document with page settings like these



 

Make a spread with an image straddling the pages



 

Export to PDF

In the General section, choose Pages (rather than Spreads)


In the Marks and Bleeds section, choose Use Document Bleed Settings (and whatever mark settings your printer wants)


 

Voilà!

When you open the resulting PDF, the image should go past the crop area, all the way out to the edge of the bleed area. The parts of the image that flow over the crop area will thus be ‘repeated’, appearing once in the bleed area of one page and once in the crop area of the other page:


(I flipped the photo in the last screenshot because the white of the tiles meant you couldn’t see that it actually does extend beyond the crop area.)

 



 

To address your clarification:

What you’re essentially looking for here unfortunately is not possible.

Since there is no actual bleed on the centre margin for spreads, what InDesign really does is take the first closest millimetres of the opposite page’s content and add that to the bleed area.

In your example, you really have two mutually exclusive requirements:


You need the big image to fake-bleed across the gutter of the final page
You need the title containers not to fake-bleed across the gutter of the final page


There is, sadly, no good way of doing this. If you have spreads, both the image and the title containers will bleed over, and you get that ugly little sliver of the wrong colour on the side of the page; if you have single pages, you have to have the straddling photo on both pages, positioned so that it aligns perfectly.

The latter of these options is a major hassle, and it’s not a solution I would ever advise anyone to follow. But as Yorik and DLev have both mentioned, the ugly bleed in the former option generally doesn’t matter. The bits that are the wrong colour will be chopped off before printing when pages are reordered and imposed to spreads in a printing file if the document is to be saddle-stitched, and they’ll be chopped off after printing if the document is to be perfect-bound.

In either case, the risk of anyone ever seeing any of the ugly bleed is quite small. It is bigger with saddle-stitching because the staple spine has to align exactly with the gutter of the printed page: if the pages are folded and stapled a millimetre too far to one side, you’ll see the edge of the opposite side in the centre of every spread if you look closely (but this is true whether you have any bleed in your file or not). With perfect-bound prints, the gutter is usually tucked away in an ‘invisible’ folding area where the pages ‘buckle’ up towards one another, so no one will be able to see the edge of the page without breaking the book.

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