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: Indesign: how to style a paragraph so that it will occupy no vertical space in the document flow (similar to "float" in css) I am laying out a book that has line numbers on every fifth line.

@Cugini998

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I am laying out a book that has line numbers on every fifth line. I want it to look like this:

line # text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
line # text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
...


In my opinion the line number does not belong to the same line with the poem. So it is a paragraph. Then what I have is this:

line #
text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
line #
text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
...


What I did is:


I gave some left indent to all the text
I gave some space before to the paragraph style of text lines
I gave no space before, no left indent and a negative baseline shift to the line numbers


so i ended up with this:

line # text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text

line # text line text line text line text line text
text line text line text line text line text
...


Although this seems to work, there remains a space between every fifth line. and I feel there should be a better / more elegant way to do this.

Any ideas?

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@Phylliss782

If you want to keep with your original approach you must remove the leading of the line numbers ("0" leading for line numbers) and also remove the space before from the text lines (0 space before in text lines). I tested the complete procedure and I can confirm that the final result output will look as you specified.

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@Hamm6457569

You've hit the reverse situation to the one I ran into when I added web desgin to my arsenal a few years ago. CSS and InDesign layout aren't the same thing, and need different thought processes. Semantic considerations, as in HTML, don't really apply here, but I suspect that's how you got the idea to make line numbers their own paragraphs.

Your line numbers need to change from a Paragraph Style to Nested Styles (Character Styles), without any baseline shift, and you need to use first line indents as Lauren suggests.


Replace the paragraph mark at the end of your first line number with a Tab. It'll look ugly, but ignore that for now. Clear overrides so it's all just your standard paragraph style (Alt/Option-click on the style name in the Paragraph Styles panel).
Edit the paragraph style so it uses nested character styles for your line numbers, ending at the first tab. (I used only one style, but you may have one for the word and another for the number. In that case, the first style applies to 1 Word, and the second applies through the Tab.) Set the tab stop the same as your left indent.





From your description, it looks like the text is set in paragraphs of five lines each, with either natural or forced line breaks and a hard return on line five, so you would set your indents something like this:





Now run a grep find/change to replace all hard returns in your line number paragraphs with tab characters:





Select all the applicable text (Ctl/Cmd-A will select all text in an entirely story).
In the Paragraph Styles panel, Alt/Option-click the modified paragraph style to apply it throughout and remove any leftover overrides.

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@Speyer780

Quick and Dirty Way: use tables.


Paste your text.
I don't know what your source text is like, but you'll have to dicker
with it so that every line begins with either a line number and a tab or just a tab. Every line ends with a hard return.
Table→Covert Text To Table.
Column Separator: Tab; Row Separator: Paragraph.
Style as preferred.


Lengthy But Automated Way: use indents.


Paste your text.
Dicker with source text so that you have Line Number, Tab, text to
end of line, soft return, then continue with text with a soft
return at each break until you come to the end of the fifth line.
There you use a hard return. This means each five-line set is a single paragraph.
Set your tab at (for sake of argument) 6p.
Set your Left Indent at 6p.
Set your First Line Left Indent at -6p. (Your First Line is the one with the line number. You want that to be farther left than where the actual text starts.)


Now your text lines will wrap nicely. Whether you use Space Before is entirely up to you, but from your example, you shouldn't.

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