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: Who Is Against CSS and JS? I know there is a group which promotes very basic HTML. They advocate against CSS and JavaScript. Does anyone know the name of this group? Just to be clear this

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I know there is a group which promotes very basic HTML. They advocate against CSS and JavaScript. Does anyone know the name of this group?

Just to be clear this was a website, or a foundation, or a society, or some kind of group. It wasn't a person or a browser maker. They were advocating minimal HTML as sufficent to express web content. They were against CSS and JavaScript on principal that they were extraneous and bloatware. The web pages on this site rendered using whatever built-in styling your browser had for things like H1 and OL tags, which looked like crap compared to what we're all used to. They had a page for "Friends Of..." which linked to sites that used very basic HTML markup, but with maybe a dash of basic CSS. The idea was to promote this way of designing pages and to avoid just about any styling or scripting.

I found the site when it was picked up in various technical news aggregators, like Digg, Hacker News, DZone, etc.

Does anyone recall the group's name or url?

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@Bethany197

Structuralists, HTML Purist or the less flattering HTML Aryans - voiced their opinions in the news group "comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html" in the late 90's in a way similar to what you describe. This gave rise to heated debate, described here: webtips.dan.info/intro.html
A proponent view is described here: www.alanflavell.org.uk/www/html-smac.html and here are some arguments against their position:

www.robotwisdom.com/web/structure.html http://www.urban75.com/Mag/webrant.html

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@Miguel251

This may not be the specific group you're looking for, but the Hesketh group pushes Progressive Enhancement, which is based on making web pages work on all browser and under all conditions, including Javascript-disabled. They're not specifically against Javascript, just in favor of web pages working all the time.

Somewhat related:


Unobtrusive Javascript
Graceful Degradation

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@Dunderdale272

The Internet Explorer team?

I kid, I kid :)

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