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: Inept knowledge about dpi and ppi,please help? I have designed a web header 1000x98 at 72 ppi using Macromedia Fireworks for our website and we are planning to print a billboard using that

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I have designed a web header 1000x98 at 72 ppi using Macromedia Fireworks for our website and we are planning to print a billboard using that header? The printer has told us that he needs the image at 600dpi? What are my options? Will I be able to do it?

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@Rambettina927

Your printer probably meant that at this dimension (1000x98 pixels = 5.5" x 0.5" @72ppi ), your artwork needs to be at least "600dpi". He wanted a 5.5" x 0.5" at 600dpi.


Printers rarely use "pixels" for dimensions, they use the standard
metric or imperial system as units (inch, centimeter, etc.). They
often use dpi and ppi to mean the printed resolution; in the end,
that's the number he wants you to use in Photoshop or your graphic
software.


At 600dpi, your 5.5" x 0.5" banner will in fact be over 5.5 feet wide @ 50dpi once printed. It can even be printed at 35dpi which means almost 8 feet of length. The request of the printer makes sense unless you asked for a bigger billboard!

The printer asked for this resolution since you can't always provide your files at the real life size the billboard will be; it's common practice to "concentrate" the resolution to a higher number and have a smaller dimension for the file instead.



Since you're working with a low resolution web banner, you will need to re-do your layout again, at the proper resolution and size!

As a tip... it's good to ask the printer what size in inches or centimeters should be the artwork and also what resolution he prefers. This way there's less confusion.

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@Cody3331749

DPI (digital dots or pixels)/PPI defined:

300 dpi/ppi = 300 pixels used for every 1 inch line of ink coverage.

1000 pixels will yield a 3.3333 inch line @ 300 dpi of resolution

DPI and PPI have been used interchangeably (though not always accurately) since pixels entered the printing industry. DPI comes from halftone/screen dots in offset printing. If a greater number of dots can be reliably applied to a given media (paper) the finished print will appear more like a photograph (continuous tone) rather than a halftone (a series of fine dots).

Scale your web banner into a billboard (BB):

Your web graphic is 72 pixels per inch, and that would actually work - provided it was sized at 100%*. But a 1000px web banner is only going to print at about 3.5in wide @ 300 dpi - so you have to scale it up to a BB height/width. Scaling up the physical size will proportionately scale down the resolution. So a 3.5in graphic scaled to a 7in height would cause the DPI to drop to 150. Scale that to 14in...75dpi, 28in...32.5dpi, and so on. Note: a 32.5 dpi file can actually work for some BB production, but in your case the physical height will only be 28", which is hardly a BB. Time to build a new file.

Do some math and convert your web banner into a BB. Your current banner = 1000px by 98px. Simplify that to 1000px by 100px. To make the math easy, lets say you need a BB that's 100ft x 10ft.

- 10ft height = 120 inches, or 36000px - we need DPI not dots per feet (300/in)

- 100ft width = 1200 inches, or 360000px

Ideally, you'd use a 120" x 1200" file @ your DPI requirement, and be done with it. But most software won't allow you to build a 1200in wide file, so you have to scale your artboards down to accommodate. The trick to that is to think in proportions that keep your math simple (1/4, 1/8, 1/10 scale). So if I were trying to build this example, I would create a document that was 120in x 12in @ 3000dpi (1/10th scale). Build your BB according to the design of your web banner. Then pass the file to the printer with instructions to print @ 10X, which would produce a 1200in (100ft) x 120in (10ft) piece of art @ 300 dpi (for a BB, 300 dpi is overkill). Note: Placed photography is not exempt here. If you need a photograph that's 10' tall, you're going to need to pay close attention to its DPI as you start to enlarge it.

Honestly, your BB guy could be asking for 600dpi so he has plenty of pixel information to work with. If you ask what his final printed DPI actually is, he may be able to help you create a smaller (KB) sized file. Definitely, open a dialogue with your provider - helping you helps them as well. They would love to get a file that needed 0 rework on their end.

Billboards are in a league of their own. You can't compare them to a poster, or the bitchin' 000 dry ink printer at the shop. It's not the same. Generally speaking, viewers are 10s (or 100s) of feet away from the finished piece. Lower resolutions aren't detected by our eyes at those distances, let alone when we're zipping by on the freeway.

Check out LAMAR's FAQ page on DPI, scanning for billboards, etc. it's an interesting read. www.lamargraphics.com/lgweb/CustomerService/Contact_us/FAQ/Faq.htm
*LAMAR requires 100 dpi for HIGH RES (at 100% size).

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@Smith574

If the printer is asking for 600dpi, it means [he] either didn't understand the question or there has been a failure to communicate.

600dpi (dots per inch) is the resolution at which your billboard will be printed. There was a time, in the Long Long Ago, when that would have been considered pretty high-resolution stuff -- I remember having posters printed at 300dpi that looked perfectly fine at their intended distance. These days, that's pretty low-res -- something you couldn't stand to look at up close unless it was done on a true giclée printer, but more than serviceable for a billboard, and it can be printed in hours, not days.

When a printer tells you he needs an image at 600dpi, it means he's expecting you to do the RIP (Raster Image Processing). It also means he's expecting that your original image is a vector image (from a program like Illustrator), not a raster image, and needs to be translated/RIPped. You do not need to RIP an image that's already a raster image. Talk to your printer again, emphasizing that you are talking about a raster image, not a vector image, and ask him what the pixel (not dot) resolution should be. Don't be surprised if it's around 8-12 pixels per inch; that's really more than enough for a billboard-sized image viewed at billboard-type distances.

You probably do want to create (or recreate) a much higher-resolution version of your graphic, though, unless it consists entirely of horizontal and vertical straight lines. At 1000 pixels wide, you'll be able to get a pretty clean image around 10 feet wide, but at anything significantly beyond that the jaggies will start to become apparent to people with very good eyesight, even at a moderate distance. You probably wouldn't notice it in a photograph, but in a synthetic image the eye expects cleaner lines. You should be okay at around double the current size at any viewing distance.

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