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: How do I treat requests for work for causes that go against my personal principles? Recently, I received a request for a quote from a party that promotes and teaches an ideology that diametrically

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Recently, I received a request for a quote from a party that promotes and teaches an ideology that diametrically opposes my own beliefs. The job involved designing promotion material for classes and lectures about the ideology.

How do I treat such a request? And, if I took it, how do I detach my personal feelings in order to still do good enough of a job? Is that even possible?

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@Murray976

From a personal ethics point of view, something that works for me (after careful evaluation) is this simple principle: Would I use the product myself? If yes, I shouldn't have a problem working with it - at least not a huge one. If not, I would rather not.

Some vague examples:

I believe the oil industry is evil, but I understand cars are important for mobility and I will most likely get one at some point = Yes, I can work for the car industry.

I eat mostly organic but also normal veggies = Depends. I might work for a company that uses GMOs, but not for Monsanto.

I think guns should be destroyed = I will never work for the weapon industry.

Then you can add some extra rules for black-listing projects. I smoke occasionally but I wouldn't feel comfortable working for a cigarettes company, and I will never do work for groups that discriminate against others, or that do harm or have questionable ethics themselves. This "technique" will not give you all the answers for each case, but it serves as a general guideline.

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@Debbie163

That's hard to see what exactly is against your morality in this case.


How bad it is? The "evils" of some are the "gods" of others...


No one can say they'll never do any design that is helping a bad cause, otherwise that would imply they fully researched already every single topic and companies they've worked for. Which is usually not the case.

Same goes with industrial farming, religion, sugar, fast food, politic, alternative medicine, porn, new age, etc. All the negative/positive views on these things could be considered opinions; and for others, these views are based on rational thinking. That's where you need to decide if your views are opinion based OR based on facts. For my part, as an example, I think sugar is a poison yet I don't care doing candy ads; I'm not the mom feeding this to her kids. She's the one doing the moral choice there and not informing herself; my choice is to stay out of this only if I want to feel like I didn't gain any benefit from others' people lack of knowledge about nutrition but I also live with my time, and my time is full of sugar :) To me that's a "lesser evil" if I do design for that kind of thing that goes against my principles.

My take on this is: How bad is it and how much do you get to sleep better at night? Is it abusive towards innocent people like kids, victims or old people? Because no, you won't save the world by your choice; another great designer will simply do the work for you. If you enjoy the payment and if the product is based on a personal choice of someone else, then simply ask for a payment that will make your decision worth it at least (unless you can simply refuse the project because you really don't need that money.)

People who get into "bad stuff" don't do it because of a nice flyer's layout but because of the "prophet" who did intense neuro-programming on them. Your layout could be made in Microsoft Word, these people will still buy the product/ideology or believe the guy selling it to them. Some people just want to believe in miracles; if you want to save them, find another job, go study neuro-science or go at a law school!

As someone else said in the other answers, maybe what you'll get from this will in fact be used for a better cause. If the project you'll work on makes you sick and mad, and doesn't even pay well for that discomfort, then don't do it. The reason why money is part of this choice is because you need to keep your creativity up, and that's very hard if you don't feel good with yourself or get angry because you need to work on things you despise. If the projects makes you mad and slows down your other "good" projects than don't do it!

If it's really not ethical or is even illegal, you also need to report it to the authorities.


Already, if you wonder if you should do it or not and spend time
questioning yourself about the ethic... you got a big clue of the
decision you should take!

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@Si6392903

Your work is for you to do and feel good about. If the cause bugs you enough, and I suppose it does, then you aren't going to enjoy, or even tolerate the work. As soon as you rationalize or squirm about to get into the job you will have made a bad deal you will know it as soon as the check clears.

There are several excuses you can use without sharing an opinion. My favorite being, "I'm afraid it will not be convenient." Those that do give an opinion may also be included via the left hand. "I'm afraid I've done all I can for the Josef Mengele Foundation this year."

And while I have no opinions on cilantro itself we do know what those cilantro haters get up to in their spare time if you know what I mean.
[Supreme Court Reference Needed]

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@Barnes313

I'm adding this because we did have a discussion about this and it might help others. Personally I would weigh the scales. If you do not think in any way you would be able to do a quality design like all your other clients then simply tell them, "Hey, I do not think I am the right person for the job for you". I know you're not discriminating but they could see or think you're doing that so I would take it a step further and see if you can help find an alternative solution or someone that can do the design. If you're needing the income then raise your rates and outsource. Hopefully you do have a clause in your contract that states you have the right to outsource work accordingly.

In regards to one answer's comment of "If you are a freelance designer, it's entirely up to you. " that is true but comes at a cost. Some can still say and argue its a discriminative action and by those actions are you willing to pay the outcome? There are people out there that sue for the dumbest things and if you end the talks badly and simply say I do not agree with your views you could have a nightmare on your hands.

Another thing to consider is some people have a clause on their site in the contact form stating what they will and will not work on and they will not work on anything that would go against their beliefs.

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@Bryan765

Just politely explain to them that the nature of their ask isn't something you take on as a freelance designer.

IE: "Thank you (client), but my own personal design philosophy is to never use sex appeal, alcohol, or anything questionable in my design solutions...I mean that in no disrespect, but at this time, for this ask, I don't think I'm the best fit for your project. Thank you for understanding."

Most clients or potential clients will completely respect this and ask if you know anyone else they could talk with who might be willing. If they react in any other fashion, they were never worth your time to begin with. You probably just dodged a train wreck.

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@Sims5801359

I'll offer some counter-arguments.

How would I feel if someone denied me service because of my background or heritage? Not good.

So why would I ever deny someone else service? That doesn't bridge any gaps, it widens it. It makes me prejudice against them.

I can't do that. And at the end of the day wouldn't it be nice to have your pockets lined with the money of your enemy? I know I'd sleep like a baby that night. Its a win-win really.

Someone is going to do this work. Isn't it better to be you getting their money?

As for how do you produce great work in such terms. Well, in a lot of ways you might find you produce some of your best work in these terms. You offer the client a whole new perspective and insight. You know exactly what works and doesn't work more than most. You have feelings. Don't supress them.



And to offer another point, lets say you create a product that could save millions of gallons of water. Something you greatly care about. So you sell it cheap because in your mind you just want it out there, in use. Except now you're financially struggling and heading towards bankruptcy. You can't make a difference if you go out of business.



TL;DR

Line your pockets with the money of your enemy and use it to fund things you do care about. Sleep like a baby.

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@RJPawlick971

The first part of the question ("Should I?") is purely opinion based.

However, I can take a stab at the second part:


And, if I took it, how do I detach my personal feelings in order to still do good enough of a job? Is that even possible?


We provide a service. And we can take pride in that service independent of the service of the client we are servicing. At the end of the day, a big part of the graphic design industry is about 'selling shit'. For the most part, graphic design is very much a huge component of the consumer driven economies around the world. Our job is to sell something, and we can take pride in selling something, even if we don't necessarily agree with that something.

Again, should you have that attitude is purely dependent on your opinion. But it's certainly a valid attitude.

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@Tiffany317

If you are a freelance designer, it's entirely up to you. You can tell them outright that you choose to not promote the ideology, or you can simply say that your current workload doesn't allow for you to accept the project. I'm an employee who does freelance work on the side. Any job that comes across my day job desk, I simply do the work to the best of my ability because that's what I was hired to do. My freelance work is different. I've even turned down lucrative work from close friends (tactfully), on more than one occasion, stating that I simply do not agree with what they are promoting, and I've never lost a friend over it.
I hope this helps. Best of luck!

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@Caterina889

I made a promise to myself to never use my powers for evil.

I've created many pieces which sell, what I would see as, ethically borderline in terms of the product itself. Meaning... snake oil. A product I know is being sold and marketed as the "be-all, end-all" which could not possibly be true.

My thoughts on these types of project has been, well, if someone's going to fall for it. That's their issue. I can't be responsible for how naive or gullible others may be. So, I complete these without really an issue. Kind of like.... I know the 2015 Fantastic Four movie is horrible... but you're free to spend your money on it if you want.

On the other hand, I've turned down many projects that are diametrically opposed to my personal beliefs. I see no harm in stating "Sorry, I'm not comfortable working on this/that."

Just as an example -- promotional material for Ozark baby tossing. I'd just never do that work. If approached, I'd politely explain that I'm really not interested in supporting that organization/cause. I wouldn't even entertain "taking it".

At the end of the day, I have to live with myself. I just can't feel good about promoting anything I feel does more to promote harm or ill feelings in others.

For me it boils down to what is being sold. Am I just creating or working on something that sells a product and readers can choose to buy on their own. Or, am I working to promote an overall change in someone's mindset toward a particular issue or set of issues. I tend to be okay with selling products, and I almost always turn down work which promotes a mindset which is opposed to my beliefs.

At the end of the day we're all just "call girls" working for whoever is paying us. But if you don't get a good feeling from a "John", it's okay to say "no".

If financial circumstances are making you question whether to accept something you're not comfortable with, there's really no way for anyone to make that decision for you. It's up to you to define where your "limit" is and how much hardship you're willing to endure to remain true to your own beliefs.

Remember the basic premise of business.. you reserve the right to refuse service to anyone (provided it's not illegal discrimination).

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