: Technically, what are the prime gotchas that could affect your logo further down the road, if it incorporates justified* fx & blend mode treatments? Explanation (*Justified meaning they favorably

@BetL875

To bring it down to the simplest statement: Avoid any treatment that requires transparency effects (including use of blend modes, drop shadows, etc.), gradients or textures in the basic design of the logo, wordmark or logotype. Use solid colors. Be sure it works reversed out of a dark field as well as on a light field.

Once you have that basic shape and color(s), you can to embellish it with effects appropriate for a given context (the Google logo on screen has embossing, the UPS logo on its trucks and planes has a gradient), but the logo must not depend on them to be distinctive or recognizable. These are treatments applied to the basic logo form, not basic parts of the logo itself.

Great case study that illustrates these points here.

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@Sims5801359

Sooner or later, a company logo will need to be reproduced in just one solid colour/channel, where even halftoning or greyscale aren't achievable.

You'd normally use a special variant of the logo for these purposes of course, but you need to consider how the underlying design will adapt. Will it still be recognisable? Perhaps not if effects, or even gradients or complex colour are key to your logo.

Fax used to be the classic example. This isn't often a concern these days - but here are some other real life examples I've dealt with:


Low resolution single colour printing: till receipts, post address labels etc
Etching/engraving on metal: iPod backs, USB Flash drives
Frosting (or frosting-effect film) on glass
Embossing/debossing into metal tins
Die cut foil overlay on colour print

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@Murphy569

I recently ran into this exact issue with a client, and it took great effort to convince the client and another designer against it.

Basically, we were engaging in a brand development project for a client whom we were also building a website for. Very early on, the other designer suggested a "neon sign" look. The client loved the idea and latched onto it.

The problem with this creative direction was two-fold:


A logo should be flexible, as most logos need to be adapted for many different purposes (including uses you haven't considered yet). The "neon sign" effect simply isn't very portable and wouldn't work for most of their intended uses of the logo.
Using elaborate graphical treatments in the initial design phase can distract you from the core design. And, although a seasoned designer might not be fooled, these loud novelty effects can conceal fundamental flaws in the design from the client or less experienced designers, leading to poor design choices.


I personally have no problem with using very eye-catching effects when appropriate. And I do think a neon sign motif would look great in many situations. However, in most cases it shouldn't be considered a canonical component of the standard logo unless you're absolutely sure this is how the logo will appear 99% of the time, and these exotic effects won't limit the logo's potential uses.

But usually when you're doing the initial logo design, you need to work with the bare bone logo—the design in its purest form that'll be the basis of all potential representations of the logo. You should refrain from using texture effects (wood grain patterns, chrome, glare/reflections, etc.) and stick to solid fills and outlines. If you want the canonical logo to use gradients, that's probably alright. But you should also render a version without gradients in case the logo has to be embossed/stamped or used on other media that don't permit gradients. And only after the design has been finalized should you start playing with fancy non-standard treatments for specific media or a particular campaign.

If you look at the logos of classic brands that often make use of neon signs, such as Ford, Chevy, Budweiser, Heineken, etc. These logos all look good both in their standard vector form, as well as in neon signage. But that's because they started out with a really well designed standard logo (one able to stand on its own) that they later turned into neon signage.

Likewise, many brands will often use other specialized treatment of their standard logo for specific ad campaigns. For example, they might create a grunge version of the logo that looks like it was painted on, or they might render the logo silhouette burnt into a block of wood, or stamped into mud, or decorated with flames/snow/ice/vines/etc.

But if any of these brands had started out with one of these treatments as their standard logo, they'd basically be stuck with just that version, making their branding much less flexible for creative ad campaigns or use on different media.

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@Holmes874

Historically, issues would be:


reproducibility: Can it be faxed, photocopied, mimeographed, shown on 480TV, etc?
resizability: can the logo be increased/decreased in size and still look good?
cost: can the logo be reproduced with 4 color or spot printing without breaking the budget
file complexity: can the RIP software process the file to begin with?
can it be created easily in other mediums: chrome, molded plastic, sculpture, signage, etc.


That said...nearly all of these issues are somewhat moot today, as technology has improved and costs have gone down. The original rainbow Apple logo, for instance, was incredibly costly to reproduce back in 1982. But now any home printer can easily do it. No one really faxes anymore. RIP software can handle most any file these days.

The only exception may be the last item. You still may need a simplified form of a logo for use in the physical world.

There's also the converse: with more access to technology, many times it makes sense to have a MORE complex version of the logo...say in the form of an animated motion graphic for HD broadcasts...or a 3D flying logo for the iPhone app splash page, etc.

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